MOE-L Frequently Asked Questions File Version 3.8 December 1999 This file is a resource for the fans of the band moe. and members of the MOE-L mailing list. (C) 1996-1999 maintained by Kevin Landry It is located at: http://www.moelinks.com/faq.txt If you cannot find the answer to your question here you may perhaps ask the list. If there are any questions that you would like to see here, or if you think there is an error, please mail Kevin at . This FAQ is divided into sections as follows: 1.0 Questions about moe. on the internet. 1.1 What is the MOE-L? 1.2 How can I join it? 1.3 How do I post to the list? 1.4 What can I post to the list? 1.5 Are there alternative ways to read the list? 1.6 What if I no longer wish to receive mail from the MOE-L? 1.7 Can I get moe.info via e-mail with out being on the MOE-L? 1.8 Where is the archive for the MOE-L located? 1.9 Where can I discuss digital moe.? 1.10 What if I only want news and setlists? 1.11 What fan-based archives are available and where are they? 1.12 Is there an IRC channel? 1.13 Does moe. have an official web site? 2.0 Topics that have been extensively discussed on the MOE-L. 2.1 Is it all right for me to make copies of out of print recordings? 2.2 How can I get into 18+ or 21+ shows? 2.3 Don't you think it's time for a NEWSGROUP? 2.4 "moe. sucks" / "Phish sucks" posts. 2.5 Why would you spell it "Ph*sh"? 3.0 Questions about the band and the organization. 3.1 Who is moe.? 3.2 Band History. 3.3 Discography. 3.4 Other Recordings 3.5 Have there been any official video releases? 3.6 Why does(n't) my copy of Loaf have a white cover? 3.7 What in tarnation is Rob saying? 3.8 The band can't do all this work alone, who else is in the organization? 3.8 How can I find out about tour dates? 3.10 How do I get on the snail-mailing list? 3.11 How can I contact the band? 3.12 How can I contact the band's management? 3.13 Who is the band's production company? 3.14 Who do I contact in order to book the band? 3.15 Who do I contact regarding promotion of the band? 4.0 Side Projects 4.1 Who's that guy with the guitar? 4.2 Who are the Merry Danksters? 4.3 Who is Sonic Garden? 4.4 The Transamericans: 4.5 Acoustic Forum: 5.0 Questions about songs. 5.1 What is "Timmy"? 5.2 Who is Farmer Ben? Where did he go? 5.3 What do you mean the "old" She Sends Me? 5.4 Q&A about a few tunes no longer played... 6.0 Questions about live tapes and archiving. 6.1 Will moe. allow me to tape their live shows? 6.2 Can I set my mic stand up where ever I want? 6.3 What about video taping? 6.4 What is moe.'s position on CD-R's? 6.5 What about mp3 files? 6.6 What is the band's position on photography? 6.7 How can someone without any live tapes get some? 6.8 What's that? There's a web site dedicated to moe.Trading? 6.9 What are some particularly good shows to get? 6.10 Does moe. tape their shows themselves? ********* Section 1.0: Questions about moe on the internet. 1.1 What is the MOE-L? A: The MOE-L is a mailing list discussion group dedicated to fans of moe. It provides a space for them to discuss the band, review shows and trade live tapes. It has been maintained by Jesse Jarnow since its creation in January of 1996. 1.2 How can I join it? A: Send an e-mail message to with no subject and a body of subscribe MOE-L where is your name. *Do not* send requests to join the list to the list itself. It will not get you subscribed to the list and will only result in every member of the list receiving your request. 1.3 How do I post to the list? A: Send mail to . 1.4 What can I post to the list? A: This list is dedicated to moe. and moe. is the prime topic of discussion. Fans discuss shows, tapes and often set-up gatherings to meet other listers. While often times topics may include other bands, and general information regarding such is appreciated, posts that are not related may not be tolerated by some listers. Please remember that every message you send to is read by literally hundreds of people. If you are new to mailing lists, please read a file on basic Netiquette, as there are certain do's and don'ts in cyberspace. Two very good web sites dedicated to Netiquette can be reached at: http://www.primenet.com/~vez/neti.html http://www.fau.edu/rinaldi/netiquette.html As time permits, many band members do in fact read the list as do many members of the moe. Organization and Sony Records. moe. takes a sincere interest in what is said. 1.5 Are there alternative ways to read the list? A: Yes, if you don't want to receive numerous messages from the MOE-L each day, you have a few options to consider: DIGEST The Netspace server combines recent posts and puts them into one message. This message is then sent to you. It'll cut down on the amount of mail you receive. To set the moe. list to digest mode simply send an e-mail to with "SET MOE-L DIGEST" in the body of the message without the quotes. INDEX This is an even more minimalistic version. Every so often the user will receive an index of recent posts. The index includes the subject, the sender, and how long each message is. With the index comes instructions on how to retrieve each message. To set the moe. list to index send e-mail to with "SET MOE-L IND" in the body of the message without the quotes. WEB The final way to read the moe. list is to unsubscribe totally and browse it on the web. Shortly after each post is made to the list, a copy goes up on the web. There it can be browsed by date, sender, or subject. This is a close equivalent to a newsgroup browser. To post to the list simply send your message to . The URL is to check messages is at: http://www.netspace.org/cgi-bin/lwgate/MOE-L/archives/ 1.6 What if I no longer wish to receive mail from the MOE-L? A: Send an e-mail message to with no subject and a body of: signoff MOE-L You can find out all of the commands that are available from a listserv mailing list by sending listserv a message with HELP somewhere in the body. *Do not* send requests to signoff the list to the list itself. It will not get you unsubscribed from the list and will only result in every member of the list receiving your request. 1.7 Can I get moe.info via e-mail with out being on the MOE-L? A: You sure can! moe.info is a special, low volume, informational mailing list devoted to important announcements, tour dates and set lists. It's a one-way list, straight from moe.central. To subscribe, send an e-mail message to moe.info@moe.org with a subject message of "subscribe" and you'll be added to the list. 1.8 Where is the archive for the MOE-L located? A: If you are interested in what has been discussed in the past, MOE-L messages are archived on the netspace server at: http://www.netspace.org/cgi-bin/lwgate/MOE-L/archives/ Messages from the old server , dating from 1-19-96 through 2-13-96 can be found at the old aol site: ftp://users.aol.com/MoeTapes/ 1.9 Where can I discuss digital moe.? A: digimoe is a list related to the discussion of all things DAT and all things moe. The list is maintained by Andrew Harrison. You can subscribe via the web at the Onlist.com page: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/digimoe This is a low-volume list. You can also subscribe via the link on the list homepage located at: http://www.lehigh.edu/~awh3/digimoe/ 1.10 What if I only want news and setlists? A: Mark Lutzker has set up a list which provides up to date news and verified setlists from most recent shows. You can subscribe to the list by going to the webpage at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/moe-setlist 1.11 What fan-based archives are available and where are they? A: Alex, Dave & Jesse maintain moe.Links, a comprehensive guide to the world of moe. on the internet. Check here for the latest news: http://www.moelinks.com/ That Setlist File, maintained by Jesse, is also there: http://www.moelinks.com/setlists/index.html Also housed there are rich text and plain text versions of the file: http://www.moelinks.com/setlists/setlists.rtf http://www.moelinks.com/setlists/setlists.txt Interested in trading live tapes? You can find like-minded individuals and their tapelists at moe.Trade: http://www.versanet.com/~moetrade/ NOTE: the versanet site is down and moe.Trade is not up. If someone would like to continue running this site, drop me a line (kml0@itw.com). I no longer have time to run this site properly. moe. guitar tab and chords file can be found at: http://www.moelinks.com/tabs/ moe. lyrics can be founds at the moe.tunes site: http://www.moelinks.com/tunes/ 1.12 Is there an IRC channel? A: moe.rons can be found hanging out on channel #moe. (please note the period, or you will not be on the correct channel). You'll need an IRC client like mIRC, GlobalChat or ircle to participate or try typing "irc" from a unix shell account. On occasion, a band or crew member has been known to drop in. 1.13 Does moe. have an official web site? A: moe. maintains its official web site at: http://www.moe.org/ This site contains tour dates as well as updated news about the band. It is updated periodically. When the site is updated, the members of the list are usually informed by the band and organization. If they don't let you know often enough for your liking, you can register for NetMind on the site. NetMind will send you an e-mail as updates are made. ********* Section 2.0: Topics that have been extensively discussed. 2.1 It is all right for me to make copies of out of print recordings? A: While it is unfortunate that some of moe.'s official releases are out of print and no longer available, they are still copyrighted by the band. While there are no plans to re-release any of the out of print material they remain intellectual property of the band and are not public domain. According to manager Jon Topper, the independent cassette "fatboy" has been remastered and has a possible street date of September 21, 1999. 2.2 How can I get into 18+ or 21+ shows? A: moe. tries to play as many all ages shows as possible, but it is not always possible. When moe. does play venues with age restrictions, the only way to get into the show is to be that age. It is the band's hope that the fans will respect the rules set up by the club. They do not condone fake I.D.'s, sneaking in, rubbing the stamp, etc. which could damage the band's relationship with that particular venue. 2.3 Don't you think it's time for a NEWSGROUP? A: Periodically the discussion to move to a newsgroup comes up. Generally, the consensus on the list has been to maintain itself as an e-mail list. Many feel that a newsgroup environment would open the list up and make it more prone to spamming. Others enjoy the close-knit community a e-mail list can provide. Many good e-mail programs have filters which would enable you to drop MOE-L mail into a separate folder, preventing inbox clogging. 2.4 "moe. sucks" / "Phish sucks" posts. A: Posts such as these fall into the category of "flame-bait". There of fans of both bands (as well as many, many other bands) on this list. The flame wars that can start due to such posts are best stopped by ignoring them. There is plenty of good moe. related content on the list. 2.5 Why would you spell it "Ph*sh"? A: This started as a joke about the flame wars that had begun on the list because of the above mentioned topics. The use has become pretty widespread on the list. It is not intended to be derogatory. ********* Section 3.0: Questions about the band. 3.1 Who is moe.? A: This week moe. is: Chuck Garvey: Guitars, Talkbox and Vocals (Chuck also used to play the occasional Flute and Sax) Al Schnier: Guitars, Lapsteel, Cowbell and Vocals (Al also used to play Percussion in the early days) Rob Derhak: Electric Upright Bass, Electric Bass and Vocals Vinnie Amico: Drums Jim Loughlin: Percussion, Flute, Bass, Washboard & Acoustic Guitar 3.2 Band History. A: The following is a post from Chuck from when the list first began. It has been slightly updated (updates are noted by [NOTE:]). -------------------------------------- Subj: *** moe. history file *** (take one) Date: Thu, Jan 25, 1996 3:05 AM EDT From: (Brendan P. O'Neill) To: moe@Shinbone.Psych.Brown.Edu moe. history This is by no means complete, but if you want to know vaguely what happened to us, this is about all that we remember. bass, vocal: Rob Derhak drums: Ray Schwartz guitar, vocal: Chuck Garvey The three of us got together by the suggestion of a friend of Rays. She wanted us to play at her house for Halloween and we complied. Halloween 1989 Set list in no particular order: Green Earrings ( Steely Dan ), The One I Love ( R.E.M . ), The Munsters theme, Purple Haze, Melt With You ( Modern English).... you get the picture. We've tried to forget. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- bass, vocal: Rob guit, vocal: Chuck drums: Ray guit: Dave Kessler sax, vocal: Steve ? The band actually forms in winter of 1990. Dave, Ray and Steve were playing with another bass player, but we all decide to start playing together. We were called "Five Guys Named Moe" from the Louis Jordan tune of the same name. We opened up for a band of especially good sports named Monkey Wrench at Broadway Joe's in Buffalo, NY. Thanks Timo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- rob, chuck, ray, dave In Fall of 90, Steve quits the band. We rename ourselves "Haggis" for one week, but soon go to moe without the period. Rob pushed for the Moe , but a Brooklyn band of that name already exists. Ray likes "Canned Pastries" and "Soft White Underbelly". ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob: bass, vocals Chuck: guitar, vocals Ray: drums Dave: guitar Al Schnier: guitar, conga Al filled in for absent Dave at a party at chicklets house in Buffalo. He played guitar and a conga. After that, he played back up guitar for several gigs - part time. (yes, there were three guitar players in the band . We were known as the moe guitar army.) At this time we also began to use the period at the end of moe in typewriter letters. In January of 1992 Al is inducted as official third guitarist. In Feb. of 1992 moe. goes out of town for the first time to Oneonta, NY. In Spring of 1992 Dave phases out due to lack of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob: bass, voc Chuck: guitar, voc Al: guitar, voc Ray -----> Jim: drums June of 1992: moe. records Fatboy. At the end of mixing, Ray leaves to go to grad school. In September of 1992, Jim Loughlin officially joins the band as drummer. In the summer of 1993, Chuck quits the band at a bad time for two months then begs for readmittance and more abuse. In Spring of 1994, moe. records Headseed. moe. officially and finally quit their day jobs, move to Albany, NY (of all places!) and go Full Time all in the Fall of 1994. Headseed was released in October of 1994, just a month after moe.s first tour down south. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In March of 1995, Brendan O'Neill joined the band as Audio Engineer for moe.s first trip out west to the Rockies. June 1995, Jim Loughlin leaves band to play with Yolk , from Binghamton NY. [NOTE: Jim's last show was 7.15.95] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob: bass, voc Chuck: guitar, voc Al: guitar, voc Mike Strazza: drums Late July 95 Mike joins the band. In Sept. , Mike quits but agrees to play through the end of the year. Thanksgiving weekend of 95 - moe. records Loaf during two nights at the Wetlands in NYC. [NOTE: Mike played with moe. publicly between 7.22.95 and 12.9.95] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob: bass, voc Chuck: guitar, voc Al: guitar, voc Chris Mazur: drums December 29th 1995: Chris Mazur (from Pittsburgh, PA) begins playing with moe. in Erie, PA, Washington D.C., and for New Years Eve at the Wetlands, NYC till 7:00 a.m. to a record breaking crowd. Jan. 19th, 1996 - moe. begins its first tour with Chris. Jan. 25th, 1996 - Chuck finishes his glib little history on moe. from Raleigh, NC, where the band is currently traveling their asses off to pay their bills and spread a little bit of lovin. [NOTE: Chris's last show was 11.17.96. He was replaced by Vinnie Amico who's first appearance was 11.21.96. Drummer #2, Jim Loughlin, returned to the lineup on January 23, 1999. He is playing Percussion, Flute, Bass, Washboard & Acoustic Guitar with the band.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, that's it for now, time to watch Conan and HBO (we never get to watch cable) and go to sleep. While this little autobiography may be self-serving, not completely true and rife with misinformed, distracting trivia and glaring omissions, it is meant only as mild entertainment of the truly bored, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. Take it easy and we hope to see you on the road and on the little device you are currently operating to procure this message of great social import. Chuck . -------------------------------------- 3.3 Discography. 1991(?): Codename: Weasleshark, a 4-track independent cassette is recorded (and possibly never distributed). Havah Negilah > Long Island Girls Rule, Messina, moe. Wrap City, Elvis, Funky Reuben, Don't Fuck With Flo, Psycho Pimp (?) 1991(?): Spine Of A Dog, a 4-track independent cassette is recorded (and possibly never distributed). Messina, That Country Tune, Havah Negilah, Long Island Girls Rule, I Don't Know, Funky Reuben, Sensory Deprivation Bank, moe. Wrap City, Don't Fuck With Flo, Nutri-Sweet Magnolia, Y.O.Y. 1992: Fatboy, an independent cassette, is released. OUT OF PRINT. 1,000 copies were released. Y.O.Y., Havah Negilah > Long Island Girls Rule, Dr. Graffenburg, Don't Fuck With Flo, Yodelittle, Spine Of A Dog, Sensory Deprivation Bank, The Battle Of Benny Hill October 1994: Headseed (FATBOY MUSIC), is released. Akimbo, Mexico, Timmy Tucker, St. Augustine, Recreational Chemistry, Time Again, Yodelittle, Brent Black, Threw It All Away, Time Ed February 1996: Loaf (FATBOY MUSIC), is released. OUT OF PRINT. Recorded live at the Wetlands November 24-25 1995. 2,000 copies were released. Moth, Rebubula, Al's Ticker Spiel, 32 Things, Buster, Newt Slander, Meat, Seat Of My Pants September 6, 1996: Meat (550 Music), is released. OUT OF PRINT. A 45:09 single. 10,000 copies were released. October 15,1996: No Doy (550 Music), is released. She Sends Me, 32 Things, St. Augustine, Bring You Down, Rebubula, Spine Of A Dog, Moth, Buster, Four May 1997: She Sends Me (550 Music), is released. OUT OF PRINT. A CD single of She Sends Me was released to radio stations throughout the country in support of moe. on the 1997 Furthur Festival tour. The "flip side" of the single is the Meat single, released as a promotional disc the previous fall. The single contained no new material. 10,000 copies were released. September(?) 1998: Stranger Than Fiction (550 Music), is released. OUT OF PRINT. PROMOTIONAL RELEASE. A radio single is released. September 8, 1998: Tin Cans & Car Tires (550 Music), is released. Stranger Than Fiction, Spaz Medicine, Nebraska, Head, Hi and Lo, Plane Crash, Letter Home, Big World, Again and Again, It, Happy Hour Hero, Queen Of The Rodeo September 1998: moe. Sells Out (550 Music), is released. OUT OF PRINT. Recorded live at the Vic Theater July 17, 1998. PROMOTIONAL RELEASE. Stranger Than Fiction, Nebraska, Letter Home Promotial Release September 21, 1999: Fatboy is re-released. see song list above 3.4 Other Recordings 1994: The Wiggly Compilation (Color Water Productions) moe. contributes "Brent Black" from Headseed to this compilation that included: Planet Be, White Buffalo, Jambay, Band du Jour, Spacefish, The Other Half, Out Of The Blue, Blue Miracle, Mexican Mud Band, Omar, Other People, Supplication and Sons Of Papaya. 1995: Wiggly 2 : Bootlegged (Color Water Productions) Teamed up again, moe. contributes a live version of "Timmy Tucker" from March 17, 1995 to this compliation which also features: ARU, The Hatters, The Renegade Saints, Moon Boot Lover, Jambay, Ominous Seapods, Zero, Yolk, The Strangers, Jono Manson Band, Zoo People and Gov't Mule. 3.5 Have there been any official video releases? A: Sony has released two promotional EPKs (electronic press kits). One with the release of No Doy and one with the release of Tin Cans & Car Tires. 3.6 Why does(n't) my copy of Loaf have a white cover? A: The first batch of CDs came out with a mistake from the printer, the blue background was erroneously printed white. This was later corrected, but the first shipment with the white covers were still sold. 3.7 What in tarnation is Rob saying. A: For lyrics to moe. songs, check out the in progress moe.tunes site, maintained by Alex Rosenfield. There are still songs that need transcribing if you have time to lend a hand! http://www.moelinks.com/tunes/ 3.8 The band can't do all this work alone, who else is in the organization? A: There are many people that make the organization known as moe. tick, they can be divided into two categories. The Road Crew Steve Young - Front of House Engineer / Monitor Engineer Chris Ragan - Lighting Director Ken "Scippi" Richman - Road Manager The Home Base Jon Topper - Manager Dan Getz - Business Manager Becca Derhak - Mailer / Merchandising Jim Walsh - Publicist Dan Shoop - Internet Architect 3.9 How can I find out about tour dates? A: Tour dates are posted to the MOE-L an the moe.info list, when updates or changes are made. The band also has a snail-mail mailing list which helps fans to keep in touch on a consistent basis. The info-line has up to the minute information at (212)592-3542. Current tour dates are also available on the official web site at: http://www.moe.org/moe.dates.html All officially announced tour dates are also sent out on the "moe-setlist" mailing list. Sign up at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/moe-setlist 3.10 How do I get on the snail-mailing list? A: The best way is to sign it at a show, but, if you do not think you will be able to attend any in the near future you can send your address to: moe.mail, 75 71st Street, 1st Floor, Guttenberg NJ 07093 or send e-mail to . 3.11 How can I contact the band? A: You can leave a message on the info-line at (212)592-3542 or send them e-mail . Snail-mail at: moe.mail, 75 71st Street, 1st Floor, Guttenberg NJ 07093 3.12 How can I contact the band's management? A: Top Artist Productions topper@moe.org Jon Topper & Dan Getz (212)592-3542 (Leave a message after the recording) 3.13 Who is the band's production company? A: Fatboy Productions. 3.14 Who do I contact in order to book the band? A: Monterey Peninsula Artists booking@moe.org Chip Hooper (408)375-4889 3.15 Who do I contact regarding promotion of the band? A: Coppertop Productions copperpr@moe.org Jim Walsh (607)723-9185 (607)723-9503 - Fax ********* Section 4.0: Side Projects 4.1 Who's that guy with the guitar? A: Most likely, if it's moe. related, it's Al Schneir, singer / songwriter for moe. Al has been known, on occasion, to play solo acoustic sets. These sets are very informal, often with Al telling stories in between songs. 4.2 Who are the Merry Danksters? A: The Merry Dankster tour consisted of evenings of acoustic music and solo performances. It featured: Jim Loughlin, Jim Lomonaco (of Yolk) & Chris Noel Peter Prince (of Moon Boot Lover) Gibb Droll Max Verna & Tom Pirozzi (of the Ominous Seapods) Al Schneir (of moe.) Chuck Garvey (of moe.), Dave Rauch (of Acoustic Forum) & David Gans also featured throughout the tour were members of Strangefolk, Illuminati and freebeerandchicken. Some of the Merry Danksters reunited for the Merry Dankster II tour in December 1997. 4.3 Who is Sonic Garden? A: Sonic Garden is a Buffalo based band of primarily Grateful Dead covers. Before Vinnie Amico came to play drums for moe., he played with Sonic Garden. On August 22 & 23, 1997, Vinnie reunited with Sonic Garden, bringing with him guitarist Al Schneir, for a two-day tribute to the Dead. Vinnie can still be caught performing with the band every now and again. 4.4 The Transamericans: A: January 1999 Al took off with the Transamericans in a brief tour. Playing with him are: Ted Marotta (Ominous Seapods) - drums, vocals Jim Loughlin (moe., Yolk) - bass, vocals Kirk (freebeer&chicken) - keys, harp, banjo, vocals Rolf Witt (Danksters, Sonic Garden) - mando, fiddle, guitar 4.5 Acoustic Forum: A: A project of Vinnie's which includes: Vinnie Amico- Drums,moe. Rolf Witt-,Fiddle,mandolin, Guitar Merry Dankster Dave Ruch- Mandolin, Guitar Merry Dankster John Yakovou- Guitar Original lead singer of Sonic Garden Billy Contable- Banjo Ex member Doug Dillard Band, Hypnotic Clambake Elliot Tyler-Bass ********* Section 5.0: Questions about songs. 5.1 What is "Timmy"? A: Timmy is moe.'s first, and only (so far), rock opera. It was debuted at the Wetlands on 2.18.95. In its entirety, Timmy consists of: Timmy Tucker, Imelda May*, Timmy's Escape, Central Park Troll, Happy Boy, Queen Of The Rodeo, Magical Mystery Cab, Jazz Wank, Roll, ??Irish Tune??, Strychnine Waltz, Timmy's Theme, Birthday Jam, Timmy Tucker Reprise * - a theme from Imelda May was developed into Californ IA 2.18.95 also marks the only time Timmy was played in its entirety. Pieces of it, other than Timmy Tucker, were played on 3.31.95. 5.2 Who is Farmer Ben and where did he go? A: Farmer Ben was a song sung by drummer Jim Loughlin and it left the rotation when Jim left the band. Farmer Ben does, on special rare occasions and when touring schedules permit, make public appearances. 5.3 What do you mean the "old" She Sends Me? A: Beginning with its appearance in the moe. rotation (it debuted as an Al solo tune), She Sends Me had a long, drawn-out jam in the middle. It started a little slower with Rob's bass line and grew from there. In June 1996, after the band spent some time in the studio, working on their first major label release, the song re-emerged with the "surf-guitar" segment and no jam. The band had been unhappy with the direction the song was taking. This version has become the staple, but occasionally, other jams will take the place of the surf-guitar (ex: 12.31.96 - reggae-jam). 5.4 Q&A about a few tunes no longer played... The following is a response by Mike Kelter to a few questions asked on the net regarding some questions on specific songs: Po' Sadie ** Not played since 1994. It's a moe. original and it was only played in 93 and 94. The Game Show Routine (9-9-94) ** I've never encountered anything similar live or on tape. Internet Tune Jam ** "In the year 2,000..." This was written back in the summer of 95. They jammed it a couple times in the middle of songs, but never played it stand alone. It didn't last through that year. The only time they played it in its entirety was privately. Change (listed with no name at That Setlist File) ** An Al song that was also short-lived. Played in late 95 only. It was played during September of 95 all the time. On the setlists that the band used to write, they'd abbreviate this song with a symbol (a delta or something), so that's why it's listed in the SDB w/o a name. Maceo Parker Jam > Freeway Jam (4-21-96) ** I've commented on this one many times... The band took the stage for the second set and Maceo Parker was going on the house mix. They just picked it up from there and started jamming with it. When the house mix was removed, the band kept playing. They jammed for like half an hour touching on various themes including Moth, Freeway (by Beck) and others. They finally ended the jam by going into CIA! I Wanna Be 10 ** Debuted in the beginning of 96 in the same batch as Bring You Down, CIA, Guitar, Ugly American, etc. It's a silly song that I think Rob wrote. Hall of Fame (12-31-96) ** This is a Dude of Life song and not a moe. tune. They never played it (to my knowledge) other than at New Years. -Wakeme ********* Section 6.0: Questions about live tapes and archiving. 6.1 Will moe. allow me to tape their live shows? A: Absolutely, but there are a few basic guidelines that the powers that be would like tapers to follow: moe. has some new taping and trading news to report. Starting fall 1999, we will no longer be allowing board patches. We understand that this might discourage some of you, but keep in mind that many tapers get just as good recording quality from audience mics and will hopefully allow those who do not have the necessary equipment to patch in. moe. is not in a position to offer AC power to any tapers, so, be prepared to supply and use battery power ONLY. NO mixers of any type, NO Reel to Reel recorders, NO Multitrack recorders, and NO large equip. boxes of any type will be allowed into any venue. Please stay out of the way of the working crew at all venues. Live Tapes are a big part of why moe. is growing rapidly, and we want to continue to provide a cozy taping environment for everyone. Please respect the wishes of the band and crew and please feel free to ask questions and make comments. It's always been a goal of ours to make taping as much a part of the show as possible, please help us help you by following common sense at all times. We always try and make it as easy as possible for everyone to enjoy our shows. Respect your neighbors space. 6.2 Can I set my mic stand up where ever I want? A: The band has asked that you do not place your mic stands in certain areas of the venue as it impairs the sight lines of the lighting director, Chris Ragan. Upon arrival at the show, please listen to the crew and obey their wishes. While both crew and band are very enthusiastic about live taping, their top priority is putting on a quality show. At many shows you may be asked not to set up in front of the soundboard. The moe. orginazation as also expressed a desire that those with microphones share stands when possible. Please, if you have them, bring those clamps. 6.3 What about video taping? A: While video taping was allowed for a long period of time, that is no longer the case. As of Spring 1998, video taping is no longer permitted at moe. shows. There are, however, many quality videos to be found, through trade, for shows prior to this period. 6.4 What is moe.'s position on CD-R's? A: moe. does allowing trading of CD-R. You may not trade any CD-R of moe. albums only live DAT recordings. The band strongly supports trading of their live shows while discouraging *ANY* sale of live recordings, this includes the so-called "tape fee". moe. has stated that they will end all taping privileges if there is any evidence of sales of any kind. For further information on CD-R's, check out the CD-R FAQ at: http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/ 6.5 What about mp3 files? A: MP3 and other downloadable formats on the Internet are acceptable, but we ask the following considerations: the webpage must be dedicated exclusively to moe. content, there cannot be any advertising on the page and no links to pages other than the moe.website. 6.6 What is the band's position on photography? A: There is currently no "official" policy on photography. Recent mailers even display the photography of select moe.rons. Great results can be obtained without the use of a flash. Keep it low key and don't bother those around you. As long as it doesn't become a disturbance, moe. may not see a need to create any policy regarding the use of cameras. Some venues may have their own restrictions. 6.7 How can someone without any live tapes get some? A: If you are new to moe. and are looking to get some live tapes, there are ways to go about it. 1) Respond to tape offers. Often, those who have live tapes will offer them up over the net. This is a great way for those who have no tapes to find some and for those with many to share the music. 2) Tape trees. If you are unfamiliar with a tape tree is or how one works, you can check out this site: http://top.monad.net:80/~fierce/tree.html 3) Grovels, or posting to the net. Although it possible to get live tapes this way, it is a method that is generally looked upon as a waste of bandwidth. The previous two methods are much better means. 6.8 What's that? There's a web site dedicated to moe.Trading? A: That's right, you can find moe.Traders and their tapelists at the moe.Trade site. Point your web browser to: http://www.versanet.com/~moetrade/ Want a link to your list there? You can send requests to have your tapelist link added to . If you don't have a web-based tapelist you can house it at the moe.Trade site (updates are solely your responsibility). 6.9 What are some particularly good shows to get? A: Certain performances are better than others, here is a list of shows that have been considered excellent by members of the net: 2.18.95 Wetlands Preserve - New York NY moe. headlines the annual Wetlands anniversary show. They played three sets this night, the third being the debut of the Timmy rock opera. This is the only complete public performance of Timmy to date. 12.31.95 Wetlands Preserve - New York NY One of Chris Mazur's first performances with the band. He was not familiar with all of the songs in the band's repituare this night, so the songs that he did know were extremely jammed out in order for the band to play, as scheduled, until 7am on January 1st. 2.24.96 Wetlands Preserve - New York NY Another great night at the Wetlands. Highlights include an extremely hot Meat. 3.12.96 Mercury Cafe - Denver CO The band's last night of the Colorado run, "so we're going to try and make this one special." They succeeded with some hot jams and great segues. Check out the 1st sets St. Augustine-> 32 Thing->St. Augustine sandwich. The second set gets even more intense with a nice Moth->Meat->Brent Black. 4.21.96 ADE - New Brunswick NJ moe. returns to ADE to play a benefit for the New Brunswick Soup Kitchen. Three sets in the warm afternoon sun with plenty of beer and great music made for a fantastic day of music and good vibes. Many highlights here, including Good Guys Bad Guys->Akimbo and a Maceo Parker Jam->Freeway Jam->Californ IA. Chris from Jambay joins the band on mandolin for Yodelittle and again later for Moth. 5.25.96 and 5.26.96 Deadhead Heaven Festival - SUNY Purchase moe. was extremely excited to be the band opening the festival on Saturday afternoon and closing it on Sunday night and it shows in the performances. Both days are worth getting with great playing all over the place. Check out the Don't Fuck With Flo-> Interstellar Overdrive->Californ IA and the Cryptical Envelopment-> Meat on the first day. The second was equally smokin' with a 32 Things->Time Again and a Recreational Chemistry with David Gans. For more suggestions, check out the moe.review.net. It's located at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3722/moern.htm 6.10 Does moe. tape their shows themselves? A: moe. does indeed tape their performances and has since Brendan O'Neill joined on as soundman in March 1995. There are also numerous tapes from prior to this time from many different sources. The moe. archives are maintained by Eric Raimy. Almost every show is there on DAT from the time that Brendan joined the crew. ********* A copyright of this file is claimed by Kevin Landry and has been since November of 1996. This file may be reproduced freely as long as it is distributed unchanged and in whole with this copyright notice intact. This file may not be sold, regardless of profit, or included in any file or format that requires payment or fees of any sort. When necessary, the rights and copyrights of this work will be defended by all possible venues.